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For the people changing the world:
Here's how to stay whole doing it.

Sustaining Social Change is a podcast for movement builders, nonprofit leaders, equity-aligned funders,and systems-change practitioners who refuse to let burnout become the cost of progress.

Join us to discover, learn,and strengthen the people doing the work
before exhaustion, disconnection, or burnout take their toll.

Recognize when you're leading from depletion instead of purpose.

Regulate yourself and your teams under pressure.

Build movements that don't
consume the people driving them.

Distinguish between personal capacity and derailing dysfunction.

Create the conditions for sustainable, long-term change.

Weekly Episodes

Each episode explores the human dynamics
that fuel or derail change efforts.

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Does Your Presence Uplift the Room — or Weigh It Down?

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Does Your Presence Uplift the Room — or Weigh It Down?

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Does Your Presence Uplift the Room — or Weigh It Down?

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Hosts

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Frederick Jefferson III

Organizational development expert and leadership strategist specializing in equity-driven systems change. 
 

JeffersonLeadership.com

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John Rodríguez

Experienced change leader who’s led the work, taken the hits, and helps others keep going without losing their humanity.
 

JohnRodríguez4Change.com

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